Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Huck can plainly see that the orphaned girls have been wronged. In southern society young girls are percieved as naive, innocent, and vulnerable to deception. In Huck's contemporary society it is the "southern gentlemen's" duty to protect and look out for women. However the slaves' place in society does not merit protection, especially when justice involves denouncing the moral system of white supremacy. -Marley Pegler
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Marley awesome job i really like the discription in your writting!
You should always treat wemon bettter then any thing else. if there is a women in truble the man should be the one to help her.
Patrick Roderick
I disagree that Huck's view of the girls as victims has any impact on his decision to help them. I think that it is more about him looking out for numero uno. Huck says that he sees that it is the first time that telling the truth is beneficial to telling a lie. This is not because it is beneficial to the girls but instead that it will give him a chance to get away from the king and duke.
Also for conderation is the fact that Huck does not see himself as a southern Gentlemen but instead as a boy who has no chance of going anywhere but HELL.
I believe that Huckleberry Finn was a wonderfu book and believe me, I read the whole thing. I like the description as well or something.
I disagree. I think that Huck sees how currupt the world really is and is not dealing with it anymore. He knows that giving the girls the money is the right thing to do, and he feels that he is the only one that can do that. Yes, the fact that the girl is very beautiful helps his decision, but he finally realizes that these girls have already been through enough, and watching them go through this right before his eyes is not the right thing to do.
Wow, like there are some really cool parts in the book The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. My favorite part is when Huck prays for some fishing line. This is my favorite part because it proves that dreams come true.
Another cool part in the book is when they start running after little kids on the playground. It makes all those kids realize that there are some people who don't mess around
In the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn Huck says that telling the truth is more beneficial then telling a lie. He realizes this when he tells Mary Jane about the the King and the Duke's plan when they sold the slaves for money. He tells her this so he can get away with his plan to escape from the Duke and the King.
Not much man just hangin out with my hammer
Even though they are girls I don't think that it was the major thing that impacted Huck's final decision. So far Huck has been going along with the king and the duke without saying anything. He knows that what they are doing are wrong, but he also realizes that they are surviving off of it. I think that if the girls were boys instead that he would have made the same decision. Maybe he would'nt have felt as bad but he would have still done what he did. He knows that lying is not right and he does not want to lie and decieve anymore. He doesn't want to put others in misery just for his own good. I think that Huck is finally realizing and going with his own moral standards.
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You know as much as I think about it those dinosaurs must have been really hungry because they didn't have mouthys to consume food but who cares let's leave now
I'll buy the jack hammer dude so you don't need to worry about it.
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huck finn is a good book and i learned a lesson in friendship and trust and im serious....haha
jack is my buddy down the street and you definately know where that hammer's going
Huckle
Huck has obviously been affected by the girls' prettiness. Would he have done the same if they were ugly hags? I don't think so. Huck says,"She done it so beautiful it was good to hear; and I wished I could tell her a thousand lies, so she could do it again." This goes to show that almost every man, young or old, are easily influenced by pretty women. It's inconceiveable. People are quickly blinded by raging hormones. That's probably what Huck is going through right now. Although, it could just be sympathy that's overwhelming him. Huck also said, "I felt so ornery and low down and mean that i says to myself, my mind's made up; I'll hive that money for them or bust." So, Huck is just a mere human being who feels sympathetic or pity for others' misfortunes. Basically, Huck likes Mary Jane and would do anything for her.
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I disagree with the view of girls being victims in this chapter. Although it is true that in southern society girls are portrayed as weak and vulnerable, in this scenario Huck does not base his decision on that. He bases his choice on the fact that in this case it is "safer" to tell the truth than it is to lie. He wants to get away from the king and duke, but he does acknowlege that saving the girls from fraud is the right decision. He is saving his own skin but at the same time helping the orphan girls.
-Mariel Schofield
I completely agree with this, women really didn't have control back then, the men took control and protected their wives, women, and families. Women accepted this because that was what they were used to, they couldn't change it. Nowadays, men still protect women but they don't have any control over the women. Women have learned to protect and take care of themselves.
~Morgan Eggink
In response to (Patrick Roderick): I absolutely agree that Huck is in no way a product of "a southern gentleman's society." But anyone that has grown up in it is bound to be influenced by it. This is presented in Huck's indecision on Jim's freedom. B/c of societal opinion Huck is convinced he is "damned to hell" (It's OK... I used quotes) b/c of his decision to help Jim across the Mason Dixon line. A person influenced by society doesn't have to be accepted by it.
i have to dissagree with p rod on this one. i believe the whole reason he told the orphans the truth is so he wouldn't feel so guilty. All the lies that he had told up to that point where catching up with him, and driving him crazy. the only way for him to get a sense of relief was to just be honest. He saw how upset the girls were over their father, so he had enough compasion and sense to know that lying to them would end up just hurting him even more. all of it was going to come out sooner or later any ways.
amy z.
I completly agree with what huck is saying.I think how we was raised is the proper way to treat woman always watching and protecting them.But then also in the society they are being raised in being black.If you were a girl or a boy you were treated unfairly because your black.And you were looked down upon.
I think that Huck believe that giving the girls the money and telling the truth is the right thing to do, and that is what he should do. On the other hand he has people who will turn there back for Huck making such a decision. Also the girls being beautiful helps his decision and he has seen them go through enough and he makes his decision.
Eliza thornberry
I disagree that Huck helped out the three girls because they were attractive and vulnerable. I think he was annoyed that the king and duke were gaining money from cheating and lying. He had had enough of the king and duke, and decided it was time to put his foot down. If the girls had been very ugly, or even boys, Huck probably still would've decided to help them out by stealing the money from the king and duke.
I agree with what you are saying here. Huck realizes that giving the money to the girls and telling people the truth is the right thing to do. It is said that it is a man's duty to protect women so that's what he's doing here.
Women have men to look out for them but slaves have no one. They have to look out for themselves.
i agree with what rebecca said. Huck realizes that giving the money to the girls and telling people the truth is the right thing to do.
people were grown up to be nice and caring to women because it is the right thing to do.
i dissagree with the fact that the girls are treated so bad but in southern society that is how the law was, know body treated women right.....the girls in southern society are very weak and vulnerable to anything.
Natalie Hockey
I agree with Marley's statement. She outlines some major points of irony that Twain has included in the story.
This would be a good point to put in the essay!
This goes along with Huck not really seing jim as a person in the begining...I think.
All the girls in the southern society, especially the orphans were treated pretty poorly. The society just doesn't seem to care about whats right, and the men dont seem to treat them how they should be. The treat them just like slaves, and because their so used to having slaves in their society, they believe that it doesn;t matter how they treat the women. i disagree with p rods statement on Huck thinking its beneficial to lie to the girls, i thikn that the only reason hes doing it is because he does not have the perserverance to tell them the right thing, but i do agree in saying that Huck is not a gentleman at all, and is a boy who doesn;t believe he has a chance at anythign and is going to hell.
i disagree with this. I do not think that Huck is basing his dicision off of the girls. Girls or boys, Huck would have chosen what was'safer' as he said in the book. It wasen't about this girls at all. I think that all the lies he had to keep has caught up to him when finally he could no longer help it. Whether man or woman Huck could no longer lie for his own good. (didn't want to anyhow)At this point, i think that Huck is finally leaning a little towards his moral character side.
I agree with Marly because if Huck realizes Jim's place in society, then he probably isn't oblivious to where the girls stand. People of his day and age believe that slavery is acceptable and that young girls are vulnerable. Since Huck was taught that slavery is wrong, he must have been taught that young girls are vulnerable also.
Shelby Gluck
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